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llizard [home] 26 Jan. 20:06, from: 216.154.10.234, blue
VK; good fix:

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VK [email] [home] 26 Jan. 20:07, from: 130.240.2.89, red
llizard >> Yes, the one thing about spiral staircases - they're not
that irregular! (thinking of the un-diddled image)

llizard [home] 26 Jan. 20:08, from: 216.154.10.234, blue
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llizard [home] 26 Jan. 20:09, from: 216.154.10.234, blue
not to mention some of the brilliant things by Ojoshiro.

VK [email] [home] 26 Jan. 20:10, from: 130.240.2.89, red
llizard >> Oooh!  8-.   I LIKE it!!!  =)

llizard [home] 26 Jan. 20:14, from: 216.154.10.234, blue
VK; You do?? It looks like the stairs are collapsing now!

VK [email] [home] 26 Jan. 20:16, from: 130.240.2.89, red
llizard >> Well, it looks like there's some space in the middle. There
usually is some space (or a pillar) in the middle of those things, so...   :)

llizard [home] 26 Jan. 20:24, from: 216.154.10.234, blue
VK; But the center part is still a bit wonky. I'm wondering if putting
a banister on it might help....

VK [email] [home] 26 Jan. 20:28, from: 130.240.2.89, red
llizard >> Please do try!  :)

(later)
llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:16, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
This spiral staircase is bothering me. It appears that the railing shifts
from being on the left of the stairs to being on the right of the stairs.

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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:17, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
And in an attempt to fix it, the stairs no longer look spiralling.
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:20, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
another attempt
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:22, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; do you have a spiral staircase in your house?

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:22, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; I guess that it's pretty clear that we don't....

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:23, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
thornn; I've stared at some pictures of spiral staircases but can't
quite figure out the railing (the pictures are all so small and grainy)

Thornn [email] 28 Jan. 16:24, from: 204.38.177.33, purple
llizard~but the railing *would* switch, wouldn't it? since, when it 
appears at the left, you're looking at the front of the stairs, and 
when it's on the right, you're looking at the back. :) 

Thornn [email] 28 Jan. 16:25, from: 204.38.177.33, purple
llizard~We don't have *any* staircases. :(

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:27, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; that's true, but I keep looking at the picture trying to imagine
walking up the stair and it appears that the railing switches.

Thornn [email] 28 Jan. 16:29, from: 204.38.177.33, purple
lizard~I see. But one must remember that the stairs start facing away
from the viewer. :D

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:31, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; maybe this is better?

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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:33, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
thornn; I don't have any difficulty comprehending the bottom and middle
section of the stairs. It's the turn at the top that is bugging me.

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:37, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; I think this version might be not bad? (although I still can't
get my mind around the turn at the top.


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Thornn [email] 28 Jan. 16:38, from: 204.38.177.33, purple
llizard~Yeah, that top turn is confusing. :(

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:38, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; no. they're still wrong. maybe it's the center pillar that is
incorrect.

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:40, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; I keep thinking that the central pillar looks like a backbone.

Thornn [email] 28 Jan. 16:41, from: 204.38.177.33, purple
llizard~No, actually, i didn't even notice the top turn. :)

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:43, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; well there it is then. I will just leave well enough alone.

Thornn [email] 28 Jan. 16:43, from: 204.38.177.33, purple
llizard~I see what you mean.

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:46, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:47, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
Thornn; bye!!! Oh oh... you see what I mean? Rats. back to the
drawing board....

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:50, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:54, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 16:56, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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brojek [email] 28 Jan. 16:59, from: 212.160.114.123, brown/yellow
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:02, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
brojek;
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It is too much for what is left of my mind.


llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:08, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
brojek; not a bad idea...

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the top of the stairs is STILL confusing me (as you can, no doubt, tell)

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:16, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:18, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
brojek;

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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:20, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
brojek;
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:22, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
brojek;
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Shimrod [email] 28 Jan. 17:24, from: 129.125.21.112, orange
*gone*

brojek [email] 28 Jan. 17:24, from: 212.160.114.123, brown/yellow
*Kraaa*

llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:24, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:25, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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        `./         [] very amusing, shimrod!
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llizard [home] 28 Jan. 17:26, from: 216.154.8.165, blue
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(later)
llizard [home] 30 Jan. 23:52, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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VK [email] [home] 30 Jan. 23:53, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> Hi!  :)

llizard [home] 30 Jan. 23:53, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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llizard [home] 30 Jan. 23:57, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; May I reply to your recent stair e-mail here?

llizard [home] 30 Jan. 23:58, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; I await permission....

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:00, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:02, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:02, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> Sure, why not  :)

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:03, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:04, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; Yes, the image helped a little. (I haven't yet done anything
more with it) But I'm still struggling with comprehension of the
central column

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:09, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; As you can see, I'm still having a conceptual problem with
where exactly the back of the stair starts....
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VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:09, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> You could always try building a model... or find a real one
and study that...

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:10, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> How good are you at math? Are you familiar with sine waves?

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:12, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK;
        ha
^^^^%--- ha
 "   \ ha  Building a model or looking at the real thing
           would be far too easy!

I have totally forgotten everything I ever knew about sine waves.
I used to be sort of good at math. Is there a URL you know of to remind me?

<snip of where I suggested some URLs (which no longer work)>
VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:13, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> Well, those stairs are circular, and then they "move along
an axis" so when you look at them from the side like that they become
sine waves (and so does the handle).

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:16, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> Just concentrate on the tiny little details and forget about
trying to get the whole picture. If you get the details right the whole
picture will follow. That's what I did with the "Waterfall" picture...

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:16, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> Try to do a "manual gifscii" on it...   :)

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:16, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK: I will ponder it longer. (I may have to actually build a model after
all) I've already drawn it a couple of times and still seem to be
having a conceptual problem with it. I feel denser and denser each
time I stare at the problem

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:17, from: 130.240.2.143, red
[you know, the plastic bag thing that I got so ridiculed about in aaa...]

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:18, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK;
        ha
^^^^%--- ha
 "   \ ha  It's the tiny little details that are causing the problems.



a manual gifsciii??

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:18, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> As I said, concentrate on the details. Count steps and bars
and stuff and make sure everything is there in the picture. Maybe you
should find a real one in a house somewhere and sit down and draw some
sketches...

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:18, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> Yeah, a "hand conversion"...

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:19, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK: Oh yes!! that!  I might try that too. But I still would like it
if I could conceptualize what it is that I'm drawing.

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:20, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK: All these things I've done - counting stairs, bars etc etc

But I'm still blocking. I think it might be one of those things that
will suddenly come to me. (It's a bit like the 3-D pictures)

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:21, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> Building models can be quite fun. And if you make it look good
(e.g. give it a "stone" or "wood" surface or paint it or something) you
could put little dolls on it and have it as a decoration for a while...

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:21, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> You could have a go at copying some Escher pictures....

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:22, from: 130.240.2.143, red
[Hmmm... maybe search for "helix"?]

<snip of URL to staircase seen "from the inside">
llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:23, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; interesting. that one has the railing on the opposite side. I see
the railing as being the outside.

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:24, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; Eeeek!!! I know I will surely go mad if I try copying an Escher
picture. They always freak me out a little bit.  hahahaha >%^7^^^7^^^

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:26, from: 130.240.2.143, red
http://www.impulse.net/~buzzsaw/stairs.jpg

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:26, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> They're supposed to freak you out a bit...  :D:D:D:D

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:27, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; That one's good too. (You are getting much better finds than I
did) And I can see that the railing is on the inside there as well.

Okay, thanks a lot. I will let all this helix, sinewave, railing inside
or outside stuff fester in what's left of my mind and perhaps it
will suddenly be comprehended.

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:27, from: 130.240.2.143, red
http://www.hawaiis.com/sale/17stairs.jpg

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:27, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; I know they're supposed to freak me out. But I get freaked out by them
without even LOOKING at them. 

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:27, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> You can have railing on the outside, or the inside or both
inside or outside, or the staircase can be inside a "tube" with no
railing at all (except maybe a bar to hold on to...)

<snip of some more URLs>
VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:29, from: 130.240.2.143, red
http://www.goldsteinphoto.com/stairs1.jpg

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:29, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; Eeeeeeeek!!!!

VK [email] [home] 31 Jan. 00:30, from: 130.240.2.143, red
llizard >> "Eeeeeeeek!!!!" ???

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:30, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:32, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:34, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
VK; 
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    `. `\ \         [] Thank you!
      `. `.         [] 
        `./         [] See you the next time. I hope you
                    [] survive until your forbidden dispensary opens

llizard [home] 31 Jan. 00:35, from: 216.154.8.151, blue
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